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22 November 2006, 15:11

RIAA launches "Holiday blitz". Germany sets maximum fine for peering at 50 Euro.

As Christmas holiday season is the most important time for music sales RIAA along with MPAA have launched a Holiday Blitz campaign aimed at “protecting holiday shoppers from purchasing illegal copies of their favorite movies and music and defending movie studios and the recording industry against the loss of crucial holiday sales, especially those from newly released — or even not-yet released — titles”. (www.riaa.com/news)

Significant attention will be devoted to peering as RIAA has much experience in dealing with file-sharers.

At the same time in Europe, German government announced that the fine for illegal music downloads should be limited to maximum of 50 euros (provided the downloading was for private use). This was a message to law firms who impose huge fines for peering and often on teenagers.

This fine is much less than industry is used to as up to now average legal settlement was €2,420 (according to IFPI’s estimate).

Movie and Music Industries Kick Off Holiday Shopping Season with Anti-Piracy Blitz, RIAA
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RIAA, MPAA Prepare Pre-Holiday, Anti-Piracy Blitz, Digital Music News
Germany slaps cap on fines for illegal music downloads, M&C Tech

Comments 141

1. by iNsuRRecTiON, 24 November 2006, 03:27

Hey,

great news, kick down that shit music industry morons!

best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON

2. by Kim, 24 November 2006, 08:03

I live in the US and I see that both Master Card and Visa have withdrawn their cards. Also, in the US, Diner's Club has partnered with Master Card, so a Diner's Club card won't work either. How is one to purchase music from your site if you live in North America? Is anyone working on this?

3. by Kyle, 25 November 2006, 02:31

Tried following the directions above and also having problems.. Says PIN code is invalid or already redeemed.. Please help :)

4. by Emily, 25 November 2006, 05:28

I am with Kyle and John. I received a message that my PIN is invalid or already redeemed. Anyone?

5. by Gerald, 25 November 2006, 06:43

I also created an account a xrost.biz and purchased a pin number. I received a message that my PIN is invalid or already redeemed. If that is so, then something must be done to fix the problem. Otherwise, persons buying the xrost pin number are being frauded. Your music is great, but the payment method is not great right now. Your assistance would be appreciated.

6. by Pprofpopp, 25 November 2006, 09:48

yes, this is serious!!! i live in OZ and suddenly can't top up my account as I don't use Diners.

Come on Allofmp3, give us a workaround here to this piece of financial fascism

7. by LoveTheMusic@OZ, 25 November 2006, 13:57

I've purchased 2 XROST prepaid icards now without any problems at all. You guys must be doing something wrong?? It appears you have successfully purchased the XROST icards, as you claim you have the icard pin and icard claim numbers. Do you then log in via allofmp3.com and then go to your "Balance" tab, press "Refill balance" tab, and then "Activate XROST card" tab. Enter the pin and claim numbers. Worked fine for me both times.

Good luck all.

(Sack all the music execs!! They are completely out of touch with their own market!!)

8. by SpegtheMan, 25 November 2006, 17:47

Click and Buy seems to have gone AWOL. I've put my money in but cannot redeem it on allofmp3 which is the only reason I have a Click and Buy account! Come on allofmp3!!

9. by Kyle, 25 November 2006, 18:09

Friends, I think this may be the solution if you have no XROST option on the refill balance page (it worked for me).. After reading in other news blogs here, I ran across this link:

https://ssl.allofmp3.com/pays/payments.shtml?action=step2&via=xrost&reload_parent=yes&r=306484393

Once you login, it takes you to the XROST pin and claim entry page, where you can put in your numbers.. Like I said, t worked last night, but who knows for how long.. Best of luck all!

10. by SpegtheMan, 25 November 2006, 20:58

Thanks for trying to help Kyle but sadly this link does not work. I posted a question with allofmp3 earlier today and have not yet got a reply. I feel this could be a serious problem for allof as clearly many people will be only able/willing (as I am) to go down the Click and Pay route. Can I ask that anyone experiencing the same problems makes a point of contacting allof directly and urging them to give us some info. You'd think they'd want our business after all.
Cheers.

11. by Olli, 25 November 2006, 22:42

As it says in the source of this entry, actually this act regulates only the costs for the lawfirm. But you could still be sued on high payments of damage compensation, depending on the copyright offenses you could be damned to pay lots of license costs.

12. by John the 2nd, 26 November 2006, 02:51

If you go to Xfrost, login, and click on your latest card purchase, copy the pin and claim ID into the fields supplied by the link above you should, for lack of a better word, be money. The problem I ran into the first time was that I copied my pin# down on paper and did not enter the "dash" **********-************ in with my numbers, it didn't accept it and I foamed at the mouth and hit the ceiling.

13. by shawn, 26 November 2006, 03:40

the xrost payment as described is working, just added money to my account. I hope allofmp3.com is able to fix this because that is one sucky work around.

14. by Steve, 26 November 2006, 06:21

Confirm that it worked for me in US as well. Had to start from scratch, create xrost account, create click&buy, etc. But it all went smooth and the above link to the xrost payment page on allofmp3 works (as of today at least).

15. by Judy Bowman, 26 November 2006, 16:51

Just tried Kyle's workaround and it was perfect!

16. by Jo, 26 November 2006, 18:59

Well done Kyle, your advice worked for me. Thanks for helping me. Just purchased an iCard via XROST and topped up my balance.

17. by Eggert, 26 November 2006, 22:13

Trying to Logon to my X-Rost Account -- and couldn`t get a connection to the server, no Visa and Master Card either, so what to do ???

18. by keith, 26 November 2006, 23:32

The secure xrost server appears to be down. I can connect to the regular http one but not the https one, so I can't open an account.
I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but it wouldn't surprise me if the problems were RIAA-based. Would *you* put a DoS attack beyond them?

19. by Joe, 26 November 2006, 23:32

So....Xrost is down too now!!!

20. by muziklovr, 26 November 2006, 23:45

'Kay. Hope Allof can sort it out. Til then I'm going back to torrents. damn RIAA, I LIKED being semi-good!

21. by drd, 27 November 2006, 01:35

has anybody else also trouble with one specific downloadserver? in my case 83.222.8.37 seems to be down.

22. by Marky-Mark, 27 November 2006, 01:58

Never mind conspiracy theories about xrost - maybe their server has crashed because of the allofmp3 customers trying to use it!!

23. by xrost, 27 November 2006, 02:32

xrost ist kaputt!

24. by Tony, 27 November 2006, 04:40

I get pig sick of organisations like various record labels and the RIAA claiming they are the ones being ripped off. They have been ripping off the real fans of bands for years. First they release an album, next they release a special edition with an extra cd/dvd. 10 years down the line it's the special 10th anniversary edition. Who are all of these ploys targeting - the real fans that's who. It's the same with DVD too.

They have even tried to stop various retailers selling CDs cheap, such as play.com and CDWOW.

The artists get a pittance and the manufacturers sell a product at vastly overinflated prices.

25. by PhilE, 27 November 2006, 10:04

Why not give a bank and account number which people can transfer money into, which could permit so many credits or whatever, and allof could track your onsite usage. This would help more people who don't have credit cards, but who are willing to pay for music which may be unattainable elsewhere.

26. by PhilE, 27 November 2006, 10:08

It's quite simple. You just go to your bank and tell them you want to transfer money to the account, giving the details. It's also safe for allof, as withdrawals are out of the question.

27. by gm, 27 November 2006, 20:38

Yeah PhilE and who will pay the huge amount of wire transfer fee which usually higher than the amount you're trying to put on your balance.... ?

Tho there's a European payment service, moneybookers.com which accepts transfers this way. The only thing now is to convince allofmp3 to accept payments from moneybookers.com.

28. by Mark, 28 November 2006, 00:57

Just to add that have in the last 10 minutes added funds yet again quite easily via my current account and X-Rost website and then copy and paste address as given by ( thanks tc -see no 35) into web-address window- it brings up the old x-rost refill page which doesnt appear on current Allofmp3 pages. But as somebody said, bit of bother to do, so why dont Allofmp3 fix this themselves if theyre still accepting x-rost funds!. Do you think anybody actually works at Allofmp3, and dont they ever read these pages! Is there some legal reason they dont tell us on the web-page?
Anyway, the UK public meanwhile thanks our Russian entrepreneurs for the service provided over the last couple of years- and if the ways to fill the accounts ever peter out completely, well I hope that Allofmp3 resurfaces in some other format; I'd use it on principle rather than ITunes- but also that Allofmp3 communication improves, because its been tatty throughout!

29. by smkid, 28 November 2006, 01:33

Is AOMP3 working the US? Am getting an error 'Ordering is temporarily disabled' for the past 2 days.

30. by rogersdog2001, 28 November 2006, 02:25

Same here in the UK tonight (27 November 10.30pm) - is this genuine maintenance or the end of allofmp3?

31. by COLORADO, 28 November 2006, 02:44

well, looks like the only us alternative "click&buy" is not accepting payments. Any other US workarounds?+

32. by guestlawyer from germany, 28 November 2006, 03:03

Germany wants a max of 50 EUR for lawyer's fees, however this has nothing to with damage claims or perhaps criminal charges.

33. by anonymous, 28 November 2006, 05:15

Added funds today through Click and Buy successfully and NOW WE CAN'T ORDER ANY MUSIC? What kind of friggin' scam is this?

34. by (Anonymous), 28 November 2006, 06:01

just got this a few seconds ago:

Ordering is temporarily disabled

We are sorry, but the ordering is currently disabled.

The site is undergoing scheduled maintenance. Please check back later.

35. by Dz, 28 November 2006, 15:15

Hey, Peyote...just to clear things up. It is not the evil Republican Evangelicals who are causing this. This is the fault of the RIAA (Liberals) and their Lawyers (ALWAYS Liberals) who represent LIBERALS. Being a Libertarian, myself, I often have to correct misguided LIBERALS who cannot seem to see the evil of their own.

36. by USAJohn, 28 November 2006, 17:54

Hey everybody.

I've been getting the "ordering is temporarily disabled" message for two days, also... conveniently enough, it started right after I finished adding $30 to my account through xrost and clickandpay.

John, USA, 28 November 2006, 8am

37. by music_news, 28 November 2006, 18:44

Hi all! No need to panic.
Everyone who gets the "ordering is temporarily disabled" message please write to Tech Support as its an individual problem that can fixed by our team through your personal account.
The AllofMP3 Tech Support Team

38. by David Sanger, 28 November 2006, 21:23

Need Tech Support.

Getting the "Ordering Is Temporarily Disabled" message. Can you help?

- David Sanger

39. by Allofmp3Fan, 28 November 2006, 23:58

You guys are unbelievably challenged. Log into allofmp3.com WEB site, click on Balance, then click on Refill Balance, you should see an option for XROST prepaid cards. Click it and enter the PIN code and Claim ID you got when you purchased your XROST pre-paid card. Done!

I can't believe how stupid some of you morons are!

Geez.

40. by pklm23, 29 November 2006, 02:05

Has music for masses been killed off?

41. by Easy E (US), 29 November 2006, 02:25

I get the same message "We are sorry, but you cannot refill your balance at the moment. Please try again later."

Is it because of this message that I should use the go around?.... not to be mistaken for the "reach around"

42. by Andrew, 29 November 2006, 03:03

I can't help but wonder if these problems are tied to the RIAA and this : http://www.ustr.gov/assets/Document_Library/Fact_Sheets/2006/asset_upload_file151_9980.pdf

43. by Mike, 29 November 2006, 03:27

xrost still works for me as of today... AllofMp3 is the KEWLEST! Same for XROST for sticking it out. I'd rather deal with sporadic problems than pay .99 per song.

44. by Choco, 29 November 2006, 16:31

Got some bad news about the RIAA / WTO shutting down AllofMP3:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/28/russia-agrees-to-us-request-to-shut-down-allofmp3com

45. by AllOfMP3Fan, 29 November 2006, 18:40

Is this true regarding the Russian shutdown of this site? Can someone from allofmp3.com respond regarding this effects of this agreement and the time frame for the shutdown? I suspect everyone will start to empty their balances.

46. by Vincent Vega, 29 November 2006, 21:08

What a shame, even the once great Mother Russia is bowing down to the United States. I hope AllOfMP3 will continue to operate, even if it's from some remote island-nation.

47. by Dave, 29 November 2006, 22:12

I asked about the inability to order tracks at the support site. I got this response today:

Allofmp3.com support reply:
There’s been some maintenance work going on lately. The service will be restored in near future. We’re sorry for the inconvenience.

48. by rogersdog2001, 29 November 2006, 23:14

I sent a message regarding "maintenance work" to Tech Support as detailed above - normal service has now been resumed! If you are having problems then mail them via Assistance

49. by rogersdog2001, 29 November 2006, 23:18

Regarding the possible closure of Allofmp3.com as reported on www.techcrunch (see above) ...... the following is a quote from the article ..... "Russia is instructed to terminate leases for companies that facilitate online piracy, as well as inspect plants regularly, and take criminal action where there is evidence of commercial sale piracy. The government will be expected to begin complying by June 1, 2007."

50. by torakiki, 30 November 2006, 19:24

here's the link to reload your balance using xrost

http://account.allofmp3.com/pays/payments.shtml?action=step2&via=xrost

51. by kribbles, 30 November 2006, 21:27

I had the same problem as BubblesinEurope and Stan51773 but I see this morning my account has been updated for my purchase with MC. Now waiting for my bonus to post in the account.

52. by Connie, 30 November 2006, 23:51

Just read this blog:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/11/28/russia-agrees-to-us-request-to-shut-down-allofmp3com

Damn, that really sucks! Guess we have 6 months to get all the music we want..... start downloading!

53. by bubblesineurope, 1 December 2006, 00:05

kribbles - thanks for sharing your experience. I was a little worried that my refill is just gone because of the decision to close this site down (which won't happen over night if I am following the stories correctly). I will just be patient & wait for the amount to be added but it really sucks. IT has been 24 hours already. How long did it take for your account to be updated?

Xrost & torakiki, thanks for your suggestion to use xrost. Perhaps this is something for future use but for now, I have already added 25 USD via my MC and would like to see this money added to my account so I can actually use it. Otherwise I have just donated 25 USD to someone ... somewhere in never-neverland :-)

54. by pptoz, 1 December 2006, 01:35

dear bubblesineurope
In which way did you use your MC , I keep trying to find a way to place it , but ....don t work!!! I have the same way of thinking ," it won t happen over night" , and will be ok if my 20 usd will help someone after a great idea and try ,.....to pass some good times in the Bahamas!!!! :-)

55. by steve_in_u.s., 1 December 2006, 06:42

The XRost procedure works fine, thanks for the instructions. Six months left? Hope its longer, allofmp3 has stuff not available elsewhere. There are some tunes here that you cannot even buy on a CD anywhere at any price.

56. by RadRick, 1 December 2006, 08:15

I got $10 prepaid and created a balance at the allofmp3 site. But it won't let me order. Server down?

57. by German, 1 December 2006, 10:02

Hi!

The fact is, not the fine is the problem when being caught using P2P. The problem is the possibility of right owners to get information from the penalty-file for sending you a letter demanding money for abusive use of their music!

58. by BubblesinEurope, 2 December 2006, 00:09

Hi pptoz - the money just appeared on my account after 24 hours. I did not do anything other than wait. What is not working, the refill itself with MC or the second part?

59. by Hobejam, 2 December 2006, 00:24

I am still receiving the "maintenance" message when I try to download. I have emailed "assistance" to no avail.

Help?

60. by once in a life..., 2 December 2006, 20:13

xrost worx perfect. should give my visa-card back...

regards from (anywhere) :-)

61. by Talkingheads 77, 4 December 2006, 02:47

what is click and buy, does it cost money? It seems like it might. I know you have to buy a Xrost card (redeemable, i believe. But i don't want to have purchase some i have to pay for to get an xrost card. is click and pay separte fee or what?

62. by From Switzerland, 4 December 2006, 03:17

Ad money was very simple:
1. https://www.xrost.biz/?page=choice
2. Creat Account
3. Pay with Click&Buy
4. redirect to Bluewin ADSL
5. Login to Bluewin and pay with the normal Phone Account
6. redirect to Xrost and get the PIN
7. https://ssl.allofmp3.com/pays/payments.shtml?action=step2&via=xrost&reload_parent=yes&r=30
8. Enter there the PIN etc
Finish.
Look at your country for the next Click & Buy posibility!

63. by Nick, 8 December 2006, 22:36

Dude it worked!!!

64. by me, 9 December 2006, 03:08

See this for the RIAA showing its true colours:

http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/749/749883p1.html

65. by RAA, 11 December 2006, 23:10

I have used Click and Buy without difficulty twice. However, using it Saturday, they added a requirement to call their office -- with the limited hours of 9-5/M-F. I have now spent 1.5 hours on hold without an answer. They have already taken the money from my account, but so far, no service, nothing. They may have been alright before, but right now they are all wrong. Beware!!

66. by Them, 15 December 2006, 05:26

Something must have been wrong then RAA I used it today with no problem.

67. by stefanie_egler@hotmail.com, 9 January 2007, 08:18

Used the Xrost system and it worked out fine. However I checked my credit card statement immediately to see if i was charged correctly and there were two charges. Thankfully i only added $10 to my account just to see if it worked. Has anyone else had this problem and does anyone have a support number for the click and pay so that i can contact them to see why they charged me twice. Thanks

68. by Duncan, 16 January 2007, 08:41

Had the same problem with being charged twice. Its due to clicking the button more than once. You need to be pacient and im not that sort of person. Hope this helps

69. by Mike, 27 January 2007, 16:39

I used Xrost to purchase a pin then minutes later came here received a message that my PIN is already redeemed!! What's going on?

70. by Mark, 27 January 2007, 20:20

Same thing as Mike and others. I purchased my Prepaid iCard at Xrost. I filled in my PIN-code and Claim ID directly at allofmp3 and i got the same message that my PIN code already has been activated. I think i lost my 20 USD. Has anyone an idea what the problem is?

71. by music_news, 28 January 2007, 02:48

Hi,
There was a brief problem with PIN codes on 28 January.If you got the message that your code had been redeemed (but you just bought it) please write to support@xrost.biz. Usually they reply to e-mails within 12 hours.
Best regards,
AllofMP3 team

72. by Tractordamage, 6 February 2007, 19:09

I've put $20 into a new Click&Buy account as Xrost tells you. I have received both confirmation emails from Click & Buy and Xrost but the Xrost email contains no pin codes etc. Where do we get the PIN code from if it's not on the email they sent? At no point during the process was there a PIN just a Xrost not available messae, but Click&Buy still took the cash.
Is this problem (money in Click&Buy but not in Xrost and no PIN) something to do with the 48hr server maintenance message on the Xrost site? It's been alot longer than 48hrs so I'm tempted to give up.
I've been waiting for 5 days now for the server to come back on just to see if the whole procedure finalises and I get a PIN somehow.

73. by dirk, 8 February 2007, 04:48

Looks like the RIAA got to Xrost. Good thing Steve Jobs just joined our side ;)

74. by Richard3552, 8 February 2007, 16:06

I too keep getting the message from xfrost that the server is down for 48 hours, since I last tried to add credit to this site. The last successful transaction on xfrost was 3rd February 2007. I have also sent emails to xfrost and allofmp3 with no reply. I am very disappointed as this is the best site on the web for downloads and long may it be revived and consumers can use the wide choice offered.
Does anyone know who runs xfrost???

75. by gitfiddl, 10 February 2007, 19:24

So is xfrost no longer an option? Is it officially gone? Any other options to use a Via debit card and get tunes?

76. by marmarsh56, 14 February 2007, 05:26

Is xrost ever coming back? Is there any other way to refill your balance by credit card(visa/mastercard) other than xrost? Xrost has had the same error message saying the server is down for 48 hours for two weeks.

77. by Bill, 29 March 2007, 00:05

Are we out of luck? There doesn't seem to be a way to refill my balance with allofmp3? It's March 28 and still no ability to use xrost. Anyone know of another method to refill a balance? Thanks!

78. by DS, 4 April 2007, 04:46

Bill you can still use songboom.com it's costs a little bit more, but still alot cheaper than... well you know :)

79. by Andy, 23 May 2007, 14:27

Look like this site is going to die. Can't find any way of spending my money here. (used to spend about $50 a month...). Looking for alternatives.

If any admin from the site is reading, PLEASE sort this situation out; people are going to start drifting away and won't come back which would be a real shame.

I've got about $15 left. Once that's gone, so am I.

80. by mikeoldfield, 7 June 2007, 19:33

Guy..........its obvious that our beloved allofmp3 is illegal, hence the payment problems. Once all modes of payment are stopped, there won't be any choice but to shut down the site....what a pity.....

81. by needlegun, 1 September 2007, 03:30

mikeoldfield? yeah right! It's NOT obvious that allofmp3 is illegal, hence why the court has found in their favor and they'll be re-opening for business soon.

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