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26 May 2008, 12:35

Music Industry Drops Copyright Suit Against Russian Music Site

May 23 (Bloomberg) -- Sony BMG Music Entertainment and other record companies dismissed their copyright lawsuit against Russia-based Internet music store AllofMP3.com, which was accused of distributing millions of pirated song files.

Members of the Recording Industry Association of America, a trade group, didn't say why they were voluntarily dropping the case in papers filed May 20 in federal court in Manhattan.

``The site is now defunct and out of business, the result of a successful anti-piracy initiative,'' Jonathan Lamy, a spokesman for the trade group, said today in an e-mail.

The complaint, filed in December 2006, called the site ``a notorious black market'' that made $30 million a year by directing Internet users to music files available for download, without giving any money to the record labels. The other record labels joining the suit with Sony were Warner Music Group Corp., Vivendi SA and EMI Group Plc.

The Web site said in August it would reopen after it had been shut by Russia a month earlier to ease entry into the World Trade Organization. The Bush administration, which called AllofMP3.com a ``poster child for Internet music piracy,'' said the Web site threatened Russia's entry into the trade group.

A Moscow court in August cleared former AllofMP3.com owner Denis Kvasov of copyright violations, citing insufficient evidence.

A visit to the Web site today found only links to news about the music industry.

A lawyer for AllofMP3.com said the site never deserved to be sued by the recording industry.

``They never correctly commenced the proceeding in the first place,'' John Crossman, who represented the site's owner, MediaServices LLC, said today in an interview about the dismissal. ``Maybe it was a rare triumph of good sense.''

The Web site had 5.5 million subscribers, who paid between 10 cents and 20 cents per song, compared with 99 cents charged by Apple Inc.'s online iTunes store.

The case is Arista v. Mediaservices, 06-cv-15319, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York (Manhattan).

Entry tags: allofmp3.com 11, RIAA 16

Comments 419

1. by Arccos, 27 May 2008, 01:01

Any chance of a comeback, then?

2. by Dave Stanhope, 27 May 2008, 01:19

Where is my twenty dollars that i had sitting there in credit?

Will I ever get that back??

3. by Gary, 27 May 2008, 02:18

Dave, there was more than enough warning about what might happen with AllOfMP3. If you didn't use up your credit you're a fool who deserves to lose it.

4. by Nate, 27 May 2008, 02:31

yeah, I either want my money back or music, I'll take either. I just don't like knowing that my money is out there either being taken by the company or somewhere in the middle on internet nowhere.
What about a lawsuit for taking people's money and then not giving them anything for it? 5.5 million people is a bunch that they owe.

5. by Trey, 27 May 2008, 04:49

hooray for bureaucratic domination of the music industry. oh, and the blatant bias against allofmp3 in the article. nice

6. by Christopher, 27 May 2008, 06:12

You are kidding? They never proven in court that AllofMP3 was illegal, and in fact in the only court ruling the courts said it WAS legal?

This is simply something that CANNOT be allowed to go on, and I hope that AllofMP3 files a counter-lawsuit against the companies who filed this lawsuit. This was a BLATANT abuse of the court system in order to shut down a business that another business simply didn't like, but which was legal and probably still is legal by Russian law.

7. by Wren, 27 May 2008, 09:44

for dave and Nate
have you tried using your money with mp3sparks or alltunes ??.........
we are talking about that for one year...

8. by MOJO, 27 May 2008, 11:50

It's not possible to order anything on mp3sparks. Says service is currently unavailable...

9. by Wren, 27 May 2008, 12:36

> to MOJO:
try CMPASS...

10. by Sergej, 27 May 2008, 16:49

Maybe aomp3 is already working on a comeback, so no more *sparks? ;)

11. by babes, 27 May 2008, 18:25

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12. by GunGuy, 28 May 2008, 01:16

I lost $5.00 in unused credit but I was very well aware that it wouldn't be refunded in the event that something like this happened. The way I look at it, I saved hundreds of dollars that would have otherwise gone to some rip-off artist like Apple's I-Tunes by using this service. I used to halfway care about the RIAA losing money to piracy but now that they've shown their true colors in pursuing interests like this as well as attacking individuals for tens of thousands of dollars for downloading as little as one pirated song i'm glad to see that they lost. I just can't wait for the day when the RIAA's execs lose their jobs and the artists become the sole benefactors of profit for all their hard work.

13. by digi, 28 May 2008, 01:57

I still have credit available from my old aomp3 account showing up on both sparks and alltunes. I hear tell aomp3 explorer still works even though the website is down.

14. by Chaz Stacy, 28 May 2008, 05:29

COME BACK TO US! Dinosaurs will slowly die, just like the music industry big wigs will. I hate pirating stuff for free, but had no problem paying a couple bux for an album. There is no reason to pay ten or twenty bucks for some music so some fathead record exec can make a few mil a year.

15. by sgeek, 28 May 2008, 10:42

AllTunes still works - you should be able to use whatever's left in your balance. The only problem is refilling it.

16. by (Anonymous), 28 May 2008, 14:00

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18. by (Anonymous), 28 May 2008, 17:39

Try using the CMPASS method listed on their balance page. That works a treat with MP3sparks.

19. by (Anonymous), 28 May 2008, 17:41

Try using the CMPASS method listed on their balance page. That works a treat with MP3sparks to refill.

20. by Ron, 28 May 2008, 19:35

This is something you should have considered in the beginning???, especially knowing all about the napster controversy. What were you thinking???

21. by Cheve, 28 May 2008, 20:30

I just downloaded and installed the software from www.alltunes.com and the money is still in my account, so I see no problem there.

Regards

22. by eliah, 28 May 2008, 20:40

Boo hoo I gave my money to a Russian pirate and now I can't get it. If you don't like paying for music, why would you pay a pirate who doesn't pay the artists? Just download it for free. If you don't like labels ("All labels are bad! Very bad!"), THEN PAY THE ARTISTS.
Idiots.

23. by Patrick, 28 May 2008, 21:07

eliah, how would we go about finding the addresses of these artists Smarty Pants?

24. by bigbillyt, 29 May 2008, 00:19

Simple fact is, if my money had not gone to all of MP3 / Alltunes it would have stayed in my wallet. I would not give a dime to Itunes if I could never listen to music again. Itunes can go straight to hell for all I care. They are the real pirates, charging people for music then trying to completely control how you can use what you already paid for. Also, I will not pay Amazon or anybody the same price as a CD and not get a physical disc in return. As far as I am concerened a portion of what we pay for CDs is the production and distribution. If a large percent of that cost is mitigated by downloading instead the cost to the consumer should be much less. I am also reasonably certain that Aerosmith does not need any more money any way. Not to mention the many artists I have paid insane amounts of money to see live of late. I am sure they have all recieved more than enough of my hard earned coin.

25. by Sasha, 29 May 2008, 00:21

Just stumbled upon today on allofmp3.org Is this the comeback of allofmp3.com? I donno Maybe, check it out. Same deal 15 cents per song.

26. by max, 29 May 2008, 11:21

alltunes.com has your credits sitting there

goto there to use your credits

27. by Forch Gropo, 29 May 2008, 18:17

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28. by empeethreeman, 29 May 2008, 23:24

While we all wait for the undoubted reprise of allofmp3 in the near future checkout isound.be........

29. by T-Man, 30 May 2008, 03:54

Dave, go to Mp3sparks.com and your balance will be there. I had about $3 in my AllofMP3 account and found it had transfered.

30. by Андрюха, 30 May 2008, 20:00

Поздравляю! Так заработает теперь ресурс как раньше?

31. by dsad, 3 June 2008, 12:54

dsada

32. by AndyC, 3 June 2008, 18:45

I have never stopped downloading music from AllofMp3 in its many guises, from the UK, whilst all this was going on. I have never lost any money from AllofMp3 and they have even given me credit to download whilst credit card payments were not working. I am not sure why people are moaning, with a little thought and initiative you would have been able to keep downloading for the last 12 months+. I use AllTunes every day :-)

33. by jclovergrace, 4 June 2008, 08:34

AndyC: maybe you can utilise the site from Europe but not U.S.? (since RIAA is in the U.S. and, I presume, lawsuits originated here?)

I agree with everything that GunGuy said (although his sn frightens me! :o) Bottom line: "I saved hundreds of dollars..." So, if you lost a few dollars, how much did you save along the way? (betcha you got back more than you lost)

34. by Ozman, 5 June 2008, 04:11

I'll be damned I just checked mp3sparks.com for the first time and my ballance from allofmp3 from before they shut down is still there!

35. by christian curci, 5 June 2008, 05:39

Justice is done..viva allofmp3..
from south of italy

36. by Joey, 5 June 2008, 09:04

This is getting ridiculous. Around the time that this site went out (as i'm sure many can identify with) i had about 20 bucks or so in my account. I think it's about time i either get a refund or have the site back in working order so that i might spend my money on music i want.

37. by Wren, 6 June 2008, 00:38

> to joey
is it so difficult to read the others posts ?
if you have money on your account you can use it with www.mp3sparks.com or with AllTunes...

and now, you can refund your balance with cmpass

38. by John S, 6 June 2008, 21:03

Just discovered this blog .. checked out mp3sparks and logged in with my old info. Darn ... I still only have 4 cents left in the acct. I checked out CMPASS ... they don't take credit cards, and I can't do the refill-by-phone from the U.S. AllPay says they're 'temporarily down'. How can I get money into my account from the U.S.?

39. by Paul Slater, 6 June 2008, 21:15

I agree, what happens to all the cash in peoples' accounts that had not been used ?

40. by glen webb, 7 June 2008, 00:21

i want to sign up but the site will not give me a page to do so????

41. by (Anonymous), 8 June 2008, 07:13

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42. by (Anonymous), 9 June 2008, 21:14

penis

43. by Bastard, 9 June 2008, 22:36

mp3fiesta.com .... .20 cents a song

44. by SmCordis, 10 June 2008, 08:31

Congrats 2 all @ AOMp3 1 in the eye 4 the music Industry & here`s hoping the other site`s will fight 4 there members rights 2 dwnload music @ a raesonable price unlike APPLE who charge far 2 much 2 dwnld frm there site & others like thm

45. by vvv, 10 June 2008, 16:17

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46. by adult, 11 June 2008, 05:03

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47. by Damo, 11 June 2008, 15:36

Down with RIAA

48. by Anna, 12 June 2008, 22:44

Wren, with comment on May 27, 2008, you just made mine and my friends' day! We didn't read any of these articles and comments before and did not know that we can use mp3sparks... and it works!!! thanks:))

49. by Lianne, 13 June 2008, 20:03

Thank you all for the mp3sparks tip! I hated the thought of using iTunes!

Paix!

50. by me, 13 June 2008, 21:01

you can use our credit on mp3spark.com
regards

51. by Joe-e, 14 June 2008, 04:31

been using mp3million. This website apears gone for the past 5 days. Any ideas?

52. by xy, 14 June 2008, 13:15

try to login on mp3sparks with login and password of allofmp3 - you will find your money :-).

53. by John, 15 June 2008, 11:49

Mates, there are a great amount of ather mp3 sites where you don't have to pay for downloading. For example tagoo.ru/en or beemp3.com and others.

54. by fkelfjkelfj, 15 June 2008, 21:32

if you go on alltunes can you fill credits or is it just as gay as mp3 spark when you cant add credits

55. by no to alltunes.com, 17 June 2008, 13:29

alltunes is a great idea, but since the service is suckling microsoft's nipple it is totally useless to all of the people that don't use their OS, their browser, or their DRM crippled media player.

56. by Lee, 17 June 2008, 17:00

Just got an email from a allofmp3.org. Is this the new site?

57. by Peanut, 17 June 2008, 21:10

Just had a look at allofmp3.org - no mention of how much the service costs (presumably once you give them your email address that might change...) and instructions to turn off your firewall.
Now you have to be really greedy for free music to do something like that!

58. by Dex, 18 June 2008, 01:32

I have just received an email from AllofMP3.org, logged in using my old details and my credit is there! woohoo

Miss the option to decide what bit rate you download though.

59. by JoJo, 18 June 2008, 05:15

Guys, these days most music is available for FREE in torrents. Why are you wasting your time and money here?
Get with the times, chumps and chumpettes.

60. by lsb, 18 June 2008, 06:10

Vivendi SA how are they suing. They OWNED the site. How can you sue yourself?

61. by MadXm, 19 June 2008, 19:10

Here you can find great sites reviewed http://cheapmusicsites.com

62. by (Anonymous), 19 June 2008, 22:29

rr

63. by Hacy100, 21 June 2008, 12:55

music industry been ripping off artists and fans for years.

64. by loslaureles, 22 June 2008, 00:54

Could you send me again my password please. I tried to log in but it didn't work.
Thanks
Dietrich Lingenthal

65. by jaypee, 23 June 2008, 12:53

use gomusic.ru its legal and safe and got all the albums u could think of brilliant site

66. by o, 23 June 2008, 21:28

your money from allofmp3.ru is available at mp3sparks.com... log in using the same login and password

67. by oleg, 23 June 2008, 21:30

your money from allofmp3.ru is available at mp3sparks.com... log in using the same login and password

68. by dude, 23 June 2008, 22:03

Great news for AllOfMP3, hope to see them back soon, before all this I downloaded music with the credit available...

I am trying to sign up for mp3sparks.com but the confirmation image never appears no matter how many times i refresh the page or try to show the image, has anyone signed there lately?

69. by kanhacker, 24 June 2008, 05:50

hey this is kanhacker you now this is great yeah
thats right okey yo soy lo nuevo en la musica no entienden
i am KANHACKER@HOTMAIL.COM
TALK TO ME YEAH THE SOULS HUNTER

70. by (Anonymous), 24 June 2008, 06:31

mp3fiesta.com best site ever....better than allomp3 ever was

71. by keyboardplayer, 24 June 2008, 07:24

I'm visually impaired, and I use a screen reader called Jaws, and allofmp3 was the only site I could use to download music. Those sites where you have to download a software are so not accessible. Does anybody know if there is another site that is web-based and lets you pay with a credit card? Also, Jaws absolutely will not read the blurred text in the box. If anybody could help me find a site that didn't have that crap, I'd really appreciate it.

72. by (Anonymous), 24 June 2008, 19:56

Does anyone know where I can download russian music?
Thanks a lot!Julia.

73. by Julia, 24 June 2008, 19:57

Does anyone know where I can download russian music?
Thanks a lot!

74. by No ONe, 24 June 2008, 22:47

Did any one think about all the credit cards info they have there, instead of just their $5 balances???

75. by ludichris, 25 June 2008, 06:15

where can we get music for now? I am desperate for music, so desperate i got an iTunes account :(

76. by Andrew, 25 June 2008, 08:56

18 russian mp3 sites - http://mp3sparks.us/?p=13

77. by stan, 28 June 2008, 02:46

lost money on this gig too what a shitter, when we up nd running again?

78. by CharlesB, 28 June 2008, 08:49

Has anyone paid any attention to a couple prior posts? mp3fiesta.com . . . 20 cents a song . . . I've been using it for a few weeks now. They have 9TB of mp3's to choose from.

79. by alsus, 29 June 2008, 15:05

Fuck Sony BMG Music Entertainment

www.russian-online.org

80. by ehardy90, 30 June 2008, 03:31

I just want to refill balance

81. by Tommy, 30 June 2008, 05:13

Are you guys back up running again? If yes I can't log in to my account. If not, can you please tell me when you will be back.

Thank you.

My email tommy702lv@aol.com

82. by Vladimir, 30 June 2008, 22:24

I've purchased credits on ebay, I still have my credit sitting in AllTunes for the past year and only buy stuff I cannot find elsewhere.

83. by err, 3 July 2008, 19:48

does it not bother you all that in clear text above that no-one involved in the production of the music you are "buying" made any money from the sale of their music on this site? and that all of the cash you have "lost" went to an individual who just passed on illegal music to you?

are your conciences clear because you paid 20c for music to a businessman rather than an artist?

ffs - glad you lost your money.

84. by fon, 5 July 2008, 07:12

kd

85. by Wow., 5 July 2008, 22:13

This is awesome.

86. by Lee, 7 July 2008, 11:51

well that's Err's opinion. Problem is, this is a gray area. It goes into a money pot that the RIAA refuses to take the money from. So it's not entirely allofmp3's fault. I still consider this Legal music compared to torrent sites. I rarely go to those. allofmp3 was pretty close to emusic.com . I really wouldn't have mattered if I really did lose $20, it paid for it self years ago. But thankfully there was all the other sites and incarnations allofmp3 had so I was safe there. Both alltunes, and mp3sparks and a third one that's un named. :P I will have to say though, putting money at allofmp3.org doesn't mean the money will be there at mp3sparks or the other site I can't mention. Still shows 75 cents left. Besides, most of the music I download here is either stuff I end up really buying or stuff that's kinda hard to find. Thanks to this site, I found poets of the fall. I loved those guys so much, I actually bought one of their cd's from Finland for upwards of $33. Just a great band. Worth spending money for.

87. by The Belgian, 7 July 2008, 20:36

You idiots ! If you like music, just go to a record store and buy legal CD's. Artists need an income, you know !

FU

88. by Annonymous, 8 July 2008, 09:02

HA! As if these artists need anymore money. They just go on tours and earn 50 - 100 mil in 1 year. I think us poor shits need the money than they do.

89. by bigroccrek, 9 July 2008, 04:22

Thanks for coming back!

90. by Vladimir, 10 July 2008, 08:55

Fuck Sony BMG Music Entertainment

91. by (Anonymous), 10 July 2008, 10:48

I am willing to pay iTune...but why it is not available in my country? So I go to amazone.com to buy CDs...pay almost double of the price compares to local Americans because the shippment fee (~$15) is higher than the price of a CD ($9~$14). If the CD is not in stock, I cannot buy it even when I am so willing to pay. Why not buy the second hand CD from Amazon.com? Yeah right, the second hand sellers don't want to ship to my country either.
Is it a punishment of not being an American? Then I discovered AllofMP3 here where I can purchase most of the pop music I want. I love it.
If all these big labels want to suit these mp3 sites, why not think about the limited availability they provide? There are people who are willing to pay in other countries too. If they don't make amazon.com MP3 stores and iTunes available to my country, then I have to either pay double(for new release) or try to find thoes out-of-print items somewhere else.

Please come back soon, All of MP3, and make credit card payable quickly.

92. by MotherRussia, 10 July 2008, 17:46

I Think it's just stupid..why EMI And Sony don't sue peer2peer network and suing this..while there it's giving for free :s and here by money which means that 1 album spread there 100x faster than here..
well they just need money..i mean c'mon who gonna pay 1$ for a song from itunes..wakeup we want better world..and apple enough with money ur not planing to buy mars aren't u ?..give permission to sities to resell ur songs half the price..and all we will be happy

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94. by tragically hip, 12 July 2008, 17:36

Your the fool if you used it RIGHT AWAY. The site is still open and if you have money on it you can use it. You can't add money to it. They also are still updating the catalog Go ahead and log in AND USE YOUR MONEY !!!

95. by User ID / Password, 13 July 2008, 00:57

I can't login to either alltunes or mp3sparks and can't figure out my old user id or password...I have a new email address and can't remember if that was my login id or if it was different...does anyone know if it might have been my email address or was it a unique user id that I had to create???

96. by pssylckr, 13 July 2008, 10:03

MP3fiesta.com, just like as mentioned before, and they take credit cards.

97. by mik, 13 July 2008, 17:54

Dave, you should be able to redeem your $20 at allTunes.com. Just use your MP3 password.

98. by Kelly, 15 July 2008, 17:35

An update would be nice as you still have my money!!!

99. by Wren, 15 July 2008, 18:45

> to Kelly

if you have money on your account you can log on Alltunes or Mp3sparks

you can also refill using CMPASS method for example

100. by vostok55, 17 July 2008, 17:10

Hope allofmp3 will be back one of these days... They offered an excellent service with the possibility to choose within a wide range of quality on a very well designed interface; not like I-everything (sick and tired to see “I” everywhere) with a limited 256kbps for 99c a song...
For once someone had an intelligent idea on the way to make full quality music accessible to everyone and of course fat stupid execs from the US majors succeed to put allofmp3 down... Once again greedy billionaires “corps” won the battle...but as dinosaurs they won't last, hopefully!
I totally agree with Chaz Stacy (posted on 28 May)"I hate pirating stuff for free, but had no problem paying a couple bucks for an album. There is no reason to pay ten or twenty bucks for some music so some fathead record exec can make a few mil a year." This makes sense, if you take the time to think... I can't wait to see you back on business guys as you were definitely the best on the market

101. by BARussell4, 20 July 2008, 03:15

Honestly, I knew that the artists weren't getting the money but at least it wasn't a shady hidden bootleg operation it was out in the open. I also agree artists make a lot of money otherways, but still deserve to be paid.
I just can't afford to pay iTunes prices. The iPod has huge amounts of space up to 40,000 songs...Well I am sorry but one of their biggest customers (teens) don't have 40,000 dollars and neither do their parents but $4,000 well maybe but who fills up their iPod anyway.
I understand that you used to have to buy a CD each time you wanted a song, but even I can tell it is cheaper to distribute songs on the internet so the prices need to change with the times. Nowadays people may have 40,000 songs they like because it is so easy to access music.
Now I just use Alltunes as a music player for my PC since you can listen to full songs once you buy $50 dollars worth, you can bookmark them for later use, you can also make one current playlist, you just can't download them. iTunes doesn't even let you hear a song to see if you want it, 30 seconds is not long enough since it isn't even on the chorus all the time.
All of Mp3 was easier to use and had more options and was cheaper, what is not to like, of course the companies would be mad that someone is undermining them but, why is it they get to decide the price of someone's intellectual property. Who's choice is that?

102. by Pleased As Punch, 21 July 2008, 01:54

Yay - my $30 credit was on Alltunes, woo hoo! Also thanks to whomever it was that mentioned: http://cheapmusicsites.com/reviews/ very informative and a couple of good sites now signed up with too.

103. by bob, 21 July 2008, 09:33

does anyone know where i can download "simple and clean" by utada for free

104. by icepopo4who, 22 July 2008, 05:23

seriously, allofmp3 is the best. where else can you download music in so many different formats?! for so cheap?! please be back in august.

105. by Memoemege, 22 July 2008, 18:43

this topic for tests cars

106. by smith, 22 July 2008, 22:58

does anyone know if www.mp3va.com downloads are virus free and if they play on ipods
thanks

107. by Alan, 23 July 2008, 22:35

This interesting..

108. by sam, 24 July 2008, 01:26

Can't log on

109. by (Anonymous), 26 July 2008, 00:43

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110. by (Anonymous), 26 July 2008, 00:45

I would like to reload my balance please.

111. by Lauren, 26 July 2008, 00:46

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